I just caught a cold, which happens only every few years or so. If I wear
my softies, will the Renu solution kill the little nasties, or should I just
wear glasses until I’m well?
I seem to remember hearing that you never catch a cold from the same virus
twice. True?
–
Cheers,
Bev
==================================================================
"I used to be convinced that MicroSquish shipped crap because they
simply didn’t give a flying fuck as long as the sheep kept buying
their shit. Now, I’m convinced that they really do ship the best
products they are capable of writing, and *that’s* tragic."
– John C. Randolph, about MS quality control.
Sometimes colds don’t affect the eyes much. Don’t wear them if your eyes are
gunky or too dry from decongestants.
Getting a cold usually makes you immune to that strain for a year or two.
-MT
"The Real Bev" <bash…@myrealbox.com> wrote in message
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> I just caught a cold, which happens only every few years or so. If I wear
> my softies, will the Renu solution kill the little nasties, or should I just
> wear glasses until I’m well?
> I seem to remember hearing that you never catch a cold from the same virus
> twice. True?
> —
> Cheers,
> Bev
> ==================================================================
> "I used to be convinced that MicroSquish shipped crap because they
> simply didn’t give a flying fuck as long as the sheep kept buying
> their shit. Now, I’m convinced that they really do ship the best
> products they are capable of writing, and *that’s* tragic."
> – John C. Randolph, about MS quality control.
In article <ao01jk$lb…@slb6.atl.mindspring.net>,
"Mike Tyner" <mty…@mindspring.com> wrote:
> Sometimes colds don’t affect the eyes much. Don’t wear them if your eyes are
> gunky or too dry from decongestants.
> Getting a cold usually makes you immune to that strain for a year or two.
> -MT
And then there are 144 other "stains" left to infect you. One or two
"colds" per year might indicate a pretty healthy person.
Or one without kids in daycare/preschool/school.
Gotta go and drink my hot herbal curative tea. Maybe that carnosine
stuff that other poster wrote about might help. If it cures cataracts,
why not colds?
–Larry
–
Larry Bickford, O.D.
Family Practice Eye & Vision Care
The EyecareConnection
http://www.eyecarecontacts.comSPAMTRAP
This is off topic, but there are 2 things that can reduce the severity
and length of your cold. Without intervention, a cold will usually
last about 7 – 10 days. With these interventions you can kill it in 2
to 3 days. I speak from experience.
Most importantly, get some Zicam for your nose. That’s where the
viruses multiply the most and Zicam prevents it. It is just a zinc
containing gel that you apply every couple of hours. This will
essentially kill the cold within 2 or 3 days after starting treatment.
Don’t be afraid to use it just because your nose is running.
In order to prevent the cold from moving to the throat and chest, take
Cold-eze. They are a candy with zinc. Be sure to brush your teeth
often while taking candy.
On Tue, 08 Oct 2002 17:55:47 -0700, The Real Bev
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<bash…@myrealbox.com> wrote:
>I just caught a cold, which happens only every few years or so. If I wear
>my softies, will the Renu solution kill the little nasties, or should I just
>wear glasses until I’m well?
>I seem to remember hearing that you never catch a cold from the same virus
>twice. True?
sky-hi wrote:
> This is off topic, but there are 2 things that can reduce the severity
> and length of your cold. Without intervention, a cold will usually
> last about 7 – 10 days. With these interventions you can kill it in 2
> to 3 days. I speak from experience.
I seem to remember that colds last only three days. The flu lasts seven
days.
> Most importantly, get some Zicam for your nose. That’s where the
> viruses multiply the most and Zicam prevents it. It is just a zinc
> containing gel that you apply every couple of hours. This will
> essentially kill the cold within 2 or 3 days after starting treatment.
> Don’t be afraid to use it just because your nose is running.
My MIL swears by it, but I don’t think she has colds, just a constant sinus
drip. At $11+ a package, I’m pretty sure she’s just pumping money into her
Kleenex.
> In order to prevent the cold from moving to the throat and chest, take
> Cold-eze. They are a candy with zinc. Be sure to brush your teeth
> often while taking candy.
I’ve looked at these, and they prominently feature the word "HOMEOPATHIC" in
their labeling. Stop me if I’m wrong, but isn’t that the concept that if a
tiny bit is good, one 1,000,000,000th of a bit is better? The Zicam has
benzalkonium chloride, which is a damn fine disinfectant. Could that
possibly what’s really doing whatever it’s doing? No idea what their "magic
ingredient" is, but any website that insists on flash to present information
ought to be shot.
FWIW, Rush Limbaugh lost all credibility with me when he pushed Cold-Eze.
Sorry to be so negative here when you were only trying to help, but…
> On Tue, 08 Oct 2002 17:55:47 -0700, The Real Bev
> <bash…@myrealbox.com> wrote:
> >I just caught a cold, which happens only every few years or so. If I wear
> >my softies, will the Renu solution kill the little nasties, or should I just
> >wear glasses until I’m well?
I got mine from my 3-YO grandspawn and his big brother, who probably brought
it home from Chuckie Cheese, where he works as a game assistant with LOTS of
little kids. Rule 1: Never volunteer to help a toddler blow his nose.
> >I seem to remember hearing that you never catch a cold from the same virus
> >twice. True?
If there are 145 of them, I’ve got a LOT left to experience
–
Cheers,
Bev
=============================================================
Everyone crashes. Some get back on. Some don’t. Some can’t
Larry Bickford wrote:
> In article <ao01jk$lb…@slb6.atl.mindspring.net>,
> "Mike Tyner" <mty…@mindspring.com> wrote:
> > Sometimes colds don’t affect the eyes much. Don’t wear them if your eyes are
> > gunky or too dry from decongestants.
> > Getting a cold usually makes you immune to that strain for a year or two.
Not permanently? I think there’s some doubt that the smallpox and polio
vaccinations are as permanent as they were supposed to be. I took about 10g
of ascorbic acid. Couldn’t hurt and it’s cheap. Cheaper if you buy the
powder in 10-kg drums from China like my husband does, but it tastes really
awful.
> And then there are 144 other "stains" left to infect you. One or two
> "colds" per year might indicate a pretty healthy person.
> Or one without kids in daycare/preschool/school.
Both. My kids and husband and I were/are hardly ever sick, but the
grandspawn (10 mos. to 17 years) seem to catch stuff quite frequently and
pass it on to their parents. We’ve tried to keep our parents out of harm’s
way and have cheerfully cancelled Xmas and Thanksgiving celebrations when
the tinies were sick, even if apparently in recovery. Getting old sucks.
> Gotta go and drink my hot herbal curative tea. Maybe that carnosine
> stuff that other poster wrote about might help. If it cures cataracts,
> why not colds?
Find out if it does anything for warts…
–
Cheers,
Bev
=============================================================
Everyone crashes. Some get back on. Some don’t. Some can’t
On Tue, 08 Oct 2002 20:23:38 -0700, The Real Bev
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<bash…@myrealbox.com> wrote:
>Larry Bickford wrote:
>> In article <ao01jk$lb…@slb6.atl.mindspring.net>,
>> "Mike Tyner" <mty…@mindspring.com> wrote:
>> > Sometimes colds don’t affect the eyes much. Don’t wear them if your eyes are
>> > gunky or too dry from decongestants.
>> > Getting a cold usually makes you immune to that strain for a year or two.
>Not permanently? I think there’s some doubt that the smallpox and polio
>vaccinations are as permanent as they were supposed to be. I took about 10g
>of ascorbic acid. Couldn’t hurt and it’s cheap. Cheaper if you buy the
>powder in 10-kg drums from China like my husband does, but it tastes really
>awful.
Can’t do any harm? I would have said that too, until in the late
seventies there was a craze for taking a gram a day … on the
principle that gorillas eat 5 billion oranges a day (or some such :0)
…
within a week, I got a boil on, or more accurately *up* you know where
… of coursse vit C supposed to be good for skin so carried on,
eventually I had to take tetracycline to get rid of the (multiple)
boils …
next time I had a cold I went back on the C … back came the boils
..
just one man’s story, but I wouldn’t overdose on anything … 100mg C
is all you need …
also, there is some question as to whether massive doses might cause
DNA damage or cancer …
http://www.acu-cell.com/vitc.html
Jim
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>> And then there are 144 other "stains" left to infect you. One or two
>> "colds" per year might indicate a pretty healthy person.
>> Or one without kids in daycare/preschool/school.
>Both. My kids and husband and I were/are hardly ever sick, but the
>grandspawn (10 mos. to 17 years) seem to catch stuff quite frequently and
>pass it on to their parents. We’ve tried to keep our parents out of harm’s
>way and have cheerfully cancelled Xmas and Thanksgiving celebrations when
>the tinies were sick, even if apparently in recovery. Getting old sucks.
>> Gotta go and drink my hot herbal curative tea. Maybe that carnosine
>> stuff that other poster wrote about might help. If it cures cataracts,
>> why not colds?
>Find out if it does anything for warts…
>–
>Cheers,
>Bev
>=============================================================
>Everyone crashes. Some get back on. Some don’t. Some can’t
On Tue, 08 Oct 2002 20:16:33 -0700, The Real Bev
<bash…@myrealbox.com> wrote:
snip
>I seem to remember that colds last only three days. The flu lasts seven
>days.
I’d just like to say that real flu is nothing like a cold, and I get
really pissed off when I hear people say "I’ve got flu" when they’ve
got a cold.
Influenza is a dangerous fever. It can get your temperature up to 102
+, and it lays you out for up to a fortnight with sometimes several
weeks of debility afterwards.
it kills the old young and weak …
quote :-
The influenza pandemic of 1918-1919 killed more people than the Great
War, known today as World War I (WWI), at somewhere between 20 and 40
million people. It has been cited as the most devastating epidemic in
recorded world history. More people died of influenza in a single year
than in four-years of the Black Death Bubonic Plague from 1347 to
1351. Known as "Spanish Flu" or "La Grippe" the influenza of 1918-1919
was a global disaster.
it’s *not* a cold …
end of high horse …
Jim
snip
"The Real Bev" <bash…@myrealbox.com> wrote
> Find out if it does anything for warts…
There’s an old woman near Montgomery AL who can "talk ‘em off".
Sounds like a myth, doesn’t it?
-MT
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Jim Lawton wrote:
> Can’t do any harm? I would have said that too, until in the late
> seventies there was a craze for taking a gram a day … on the
> principle that gorillas eat 5 billion oranges a day (or some such :0)
> …
> within a week, I got a boil on, or more accurately *up* you know where
> … of coursse vit C supposed to be good for skin so carried on,
> eventually I had to take tetracycline to get rid of the (multiple)
> boils …
> next time I had a cold I went back on the C … back came the boils
> ..
> just one man’s story, but I wouldn’t overdose on anything … 100mg C
> is all you need …
> also, there is some question as to whether massive doses might cause
> DNA damage or cancer …
> http://www.acu-cell.com/vitc.html
You should build up to the high doses, not start in at once. And it’s
true that it may not be a good idea for some people, which doesn’t mean
that it’s a bad idea for *all* people. Everyone’s different….
sue
In article <3DA3A13A.92575…@myrealbox.com>,
The Real Bev <bash…@myrealbox.com> wrote:
> > Gotta go and drink my hot herbal curative tea. Maybe that carnosine
> > stuff that other poster wrote about might help. If it cures cataracts,
> > why not colds?
> Find out if it does anything for warts…
Now this is completely off-topic but:
When our daughter had warts, at age 2, an old wise woman suggested that
we give her a shinny copper penny and have her hold it on the warts and
say "go away warts" three time, in the morning and evening before
bedtime. Tell her as the penny becomes less shinny, it’s because it’s
taking away the warts.
Damn if the warts didn’t go away after a few weeks!
PS: We had tried other more "conventional" and "time-tested" remedies,
including a "new and improved" very expensive topical immune system
stimulant/antiviral drug from Australia, no available in the USA (Rx and
** expensive) that did not work. The penny worked great.
Was it the copper? Was it mind-over-matter? Was it time? Who cares. It
worked. And it’s worked for countless other kids over countless years.
So much for "modern medicine."
–Larry
–
Larry Bickford, O.D.
Family Practice Eye & Vision Care
The EyecareConnection
http://www.eyecarecontacts.comSPAMTRAP
In article <3DA39F91.8ED82…@myrealbox.com>, The Real Bev
<bash…@myrealbox.com> wrote:
> I seem to remember that colds last only three days. The flu lasts seven
> days.
I’m no medical person, but I understand that many medical people get their
panties all in a wad about lay people using the word "flu". I always
figured that the lay definition of the difference between "cold" and "flu"
was that a cold stays in the head, and "flu" affects other things.
However, your three day and seven day definition sounds fine also. For a
lay person, a "cold" is something mild and "flu" is more severe. For real
medical people, the flu is a far more serious disease which kills the
young and old.
As far as your contacts go, I don’t know. Some viruses affect the eyes,
but most don’t. I would tend to wear the contacts as long as it didn’t
bother me, and not wear them if they bothered my eyes.
–
Dan Abel
Sonoma State University
AIS
da…@sonic.net
I’ve seen it in my own kids and on my own hands and my pediatrician agrees. The
evidence seems to be something about the immune system that is sensitive to your
beliefs. It’s a staggering thought.
-MT
"Larry Bickford" <REMOVECAPSlarry…@mac.com> wrote in message
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> In article <3DA3A13A.92575…@myrealbox.com>,
> The Real Bev <bash…@myrealbox.com> wrote:
> > > Gotta go and drink my hot herbal curative tea. Maybe that carnosine
> > > stuff that other poster wrote about might help. If it cures cataracts,
> > > why not colds?
> > Find out if it does anything for warts…
> Now this is completely off-topic but:
> When our daughter had warts, at age 2, an old wise woman suggested that
> we give her a shinny copper penny and have her hold it on the warts and
> say "go away warts" three time, in the morning and evening before
> bedtime. Tell her as the penny becomes less shinny, it’s because it’s
> taking away the warts.
> Damn if the warts didn’t go away after a few weeks!
> PS: We had tried other more "conventional" and "time-tested" remedies,
> including a "new and improved" very expensive topical immune system
> stimulant/antiviral drug from Australia, no available in the USA (Rx and
> ** expensive) that did not work. The penny worked great.
> Was it the copper? Was it mind-over-matter? Was it time? Who cares. It
> worked. And it’s worked for countless other kids over countless years.
> So much for "modern medicine."
> –Larry
> —
> Larry Bickford, O.D.
> Family Practice Eye & Vision Care
> The EyecareConnection
> http://www.eyecarecontacts.comSPAMTRAP
Jim Lawton wrote:
> On Tue, 08 Oct 2002 20:16:33 -0700, The Real Bev
> <bash…@myrealbox.com> wrote:
> snip
>>I seem to remember that colds last only three days. The flu lasts seven
>>days.
> I’d just like to say that real flu is nothing like a cold, and I get
> really pissed off when I hear people say "I’ve got flu" when they’ve
> got a cold.
A cold involves runny noses, coughs, wheezes, and a general pissed-off
attitude. Lasts maybe three days whether you try to treat it or not. I
took aspirin, ibuprophin, zinc, a slug of vitamin C, and generic benadryl
and chlortrimetron to dry up the nose. My husband got it (same source as
me, the beloved grandspawn) and cured his with vitamin C, zinc, and running
8 miles in the middle of the night. He says his cold lasted a few hours.
And no, I don’t demand antibiotic shots whenever I feel sick. Nor do I
consult witch doctors. If I could do my own pap smears I wouldn’t have
visited a doctor on my own behalf for at least 10 years, except for the
ophthalmologist.
> Influenza is a dangerous fever. It can get your temperature up to 102
> +, and it lays you out for up to a fortnight with sometimes several
> weeks of debility afterwards.
What I call ‘the flu’ is the thing that you have for about a week, gives you
chills and fever, body aches, diarrhea and vomiting. I get one of those
every few years too. The cure is boring TV, chicken soup and time. What
is that called if not the flu?
> end of high horse …
Not likely
–
Cheers,
Bev
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
"History I believe furnishes no example of a priest-ridden people
maintaining a free civil government."
— letter from Thomas Jefferson to Baron vonHumboldt, 1813
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Jim Lawton wrote:
> On Tue, 08 Oct 2002 20:23:38 -0700, The Real Bev
> <bash…@myrealbox.com> wrote:
> >Larry Bickford wrote:
> >> In article <ao01jk$lb…@slb6.atl.mindspring.net>,
> >> "Mike Tyner" <mty…@mindspring.com> wrote:
> >> > Sometimes colds don’t affect the eyes much. Don’t wear them if your eyes are
> >> > gunky or too dry from decongestants.
> >> > Getting a cold usually makes you immune to that strain for a year or two.
> >Not permanently? I think there’s some doubt that the smallpox and polio
> >vaccinations are as permanent as they were supposed to be. I took about 10g
> >of ascorbic acid. Couldn’t hurt and it’s cheap. Cheaper if you buy the
> >powder in 10-kg drums from China like my husband does, but it tastes really
> >awful.
> Can’t do any harm? I would have said that too, until in the late
> seventies there was a craze for taking a gram a day … on the
> principle that gorillas eat 5 billion oranges a day (or some such :0)
> …
> within a week, I got a boil on, or more accurately *up* you know where
> … of coursse vit C supposed to be good for skin so carried on,
> eventually I had to take tetracycline to get rid of the (multiple)
> boils …
> next time I had a cold I went back on the C … back came the boils
Suppose that just getting the cold, not the C, is what gave you the boils.
I’ve never heard of either as a side effect of either a cold or C, but what
do I know, I was an English major.
> just one man’s story, but I wouldn’t overdose on anything … 100mg C
> is all you need …
Pauling pointed to guinea pig studies involving how much C the little
porkettes required. Huge variation (0-multiple grams/day — I read it a
long time ago). The assumption that humans likewise exhibit huge variation
in their need for C is not too far-fetched. Moreover, there appears to be
no way of knowing the particular requirements of an individual person. When
it comes to statistics I’ll take a physicist, especially a world-class one,
over a medical doctor any day.
It may be noted that I rarely take any vitamins at all — not because I
believe they’re ineffective but because I’m lazy.
> also, there is some question as to whether massive doses might cause
> DNA damage or cancer …
> http://www.acu-cell.com/vitc.html
Check http://www.acu-cell.com/aca32.htm for the measurements taken for the
guy’s ‘Accu-Cell Analysis.’ I would have pasted it here, but it won’t
cut+paste.
–
Cheers,
Bev
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
"History I believe furnishes no example of a priest-ridden people
maintaining a free civil government."
– letter from Thomas Jefferson to Baron vonHumboldt, 1813
Mike Tyner wrote:
> "The Real Bev" <bash…@myrealbox.com> wrote
> > Find out if it does anything for warts…
> There’s an old woman near Montgomery AL who can "talk ‘em off".
> Sounds like a myth, doesn’t it?
Nope. I’ve read that doctors have gotten rid of kids’ warts by giving them
a secret magic word to repeat and that it will only work if they don’t tell
ANYBODY what they’re doing. I suspect that Christian Science works because
people have more control over their bodies than they realize. I wonder how
Agnostic Science works…
Tom Sawyer swore by spunk water.
When I was a kid I read that somebody said that aspirin worked only through
the placebo effect, not through any actual chemical action. For a few years
after that aspirin DIDN’T work, so I embarked on the task of reconstructing
my former belief. That worked too.
–
Cheers,
Bev
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
"History I believe furnishes no example of a priest-ridden people
maintaining a free civil government."
– letter from Thomas Jefferson to Baron vonHumboldt, 1813
Mike Tyner wrote:
> I’ve seen it in my own kids and on my own hands and my pediatrician agrees. The
> evidence seems to be something about the immune system that is sensitive to your
> beliefs. It’s a staggering thought.
And really cool, too! Consider that shrinks may have amassed millions of
dollars by talking people out of their chemical imbalances…
I had a wart under my arm which I eventually had burned off by a
dermatologist. Several years later a similar wart appeared about an inch
away from the previous one. I’m leaving that one alone. SOMETHING wants me
to have a wart under my arm.
Another wart story: My son had a number of plantar warts, which the
dermatologist cut out. I asked for them (don’t ask why, I’m just weird; I
still have my daughter’s shriveled belly button), so he put them in a tube
of alcohol. He said what I should really do is let the neighborhood kids
play with them for a while and then hand out his business cards to their
parents.
–
Cheers,
Bev
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
"History I believe furnishes no example of a priest-ridden people
maintaining a free civil government."
– letter from Thomas Jefferson to Baron vonHumboldt, 1813
In article <3DA49255.49C18…@myrealbox.com>, The Real Bev
<bash…@myrealbox.com> wrote:
> Pauling pointed to guinea pig studies involving how much C the little
> porkettes required. Huge variation (0-multiple grams/day — I read it a
> long time ago). The assumption that humans likewise exhibit huge variation
> in their need for C is not too far-fetched. Moreover, there appears to be
> no way of knowing the particular requirements of an individual person. When
> it comes to statistics I’ll take a physicist, especially a world-class one,
> over a medical doctor any day.
I have sort of a rough reasonableness check for things, especially those
having to do with nutrition. What were things like 10,000 years ago? Did
they eat a healthy, balanced diet? Of course not. Did they get their
daily 100mg of vitamin C year round? Unlikely.
ObVision: What were things like 10,000 years ago for those with myopia,
presbyopia and cataract? I’m glad I don’t live back then!
–
Dan Abel
Sonoma State University
AIS
da…@sonic.net
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Dan Abel wrote:
> In article <3DA49255.49C18…@myrealbox.com>, The Real Bev
> <bash…@myrealbox.com> wrote:
> > Pauling pointed to guinea pig studies involving how much C the little
> > porkettes required. Huge variation (0-multiple grams/day — I read it a
> > long time ago). The assumption that humans likewise exhibit huge variation
> > in their need for C is not too far-fetched. Moreover, there appears to be
> > no way of knowing the particular requirements of an individual person. When
> > it comes to statistics I’ll take a physicist, especially a world-class one,
> > over a medical doctor any day.
> I have sort of a rough reasonableness check for things, especially those
> having to do with nutrition. What were things like 10,000 years ago? Did
> they eat a healthy, balanced diet? Of course not. Did they get their
> daily 100mg of vitamin C year round? Unlikely.
I think you get a lot of vitamin C if you eat a lot of vegetables, which is
what most people ate. Hunters weren’t so successful that their catch could
be replied on. Not sure how the Inuit survived on their pre-"civilized"
diet, but they clearly did. And not everybody with a crappy diet dies
before reproduction.
Hardly anybody needs vitamins just to survive, at least not around here. If
we take them, it’s clearly an attempt to improve something. If all you get
is expensive urine, big deal. Filet mignon gives you expensive excrement,
but nobody crabs about that!
> ObVision: What were things like 10,000 years ago for those with myopia,
> presbyopia and cataract? I’m glad I don’t live back then!
If they were nice, their families probably took care of them. If they were
smart, the tribe probably took care of them. If they were mean or nasty or
stupid…
–
Cheers,
Bev
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
"Screw the end users. If they want good software,
let them write it themselves." — Anon.
On Tue, 08 Oct 2002 20:16:33 -0700, The Real Bev
<bash…@myrealbox.com> wrote:
>sky-hi wrote:
>> This is off topic, but there are 2 things that can reduce the severity
>> and length of your cold. Without intervention, a cold will usually
>> last about 7 – 10 days. With these interventions you can kill it in 2
>> to 3 days. I speak from experience.
>I seem to remember that colds last only three days. The flu lasts seven
>days.
Colds last close to 2 weeks in many cases.
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>> Most importantly, get some Zicam for your nose. That’s where the
>> viruses multiply the most and Zicam prevents it. It is just a zinc
>> containing gel that you apply every couple of hours. This will
>> essentially kill the cold within 2 or 3 days after starting treatment.
>> Don’t be afraid to use it just because your nose is running.
>My MIL swears by it, but I don’t think she has colds, just a constant sinus
>drip. At $11+ a package, I’m pretty sure she’s just pumping money into her
>Kleenex.
>> In order to prevent the cold from moving to the throat and chest, take
>> Cold-eze. They are a candy with zinc. Be sure to brush your teeth
>> often while taking candy.
>I’ve looked at these, and they prominently feature the word "HOMEOPATHIC" in
>their labeling. Stop me if I’m wrong, but isn’t that the concept that if a
>tiny bit is good, one 1,000,000,000th of a bit is better?
In the case of COLDEEZE, I believe homeopathic is meaning the opposite
of allopathic. I think they are implying that it’s not a drug. At any
rate, the lozenges deliver zinc gluconate to the back of the mouth and
throat, which prevents the cold virus from making a home there. You
can find out more at http://www.quigleyco.com
>The Zicam has
>benzalkonium chloride, which is a damn fine disinfectant. Could that
>possibly what’s really doing whatever it’s doing?
Colds are caused by viruses. Disinfectants kill bacteria.
> No idea what their "magic
>ingredient"
As I mentioned before, the active ingredient is zinc. It prevents the
cold virus from attaching to the mucous cells and multiplying. It
really works. It’s science, not magic. Others can find out more at
http://www.zicam.com
>is, but any website that insists on flash to present information
>ought to be shot.
Maybe so, but they have a cure for the common cold, so don’t let their
web designers prevent you from recovering more quickly.
On Wed, 09 Oct 2002 13:14:25 -0700, The Real Bev
<bash…@myrealbox.com> wrote:
>Jim Lawton wrote:
>> On Tue, 08 Oct 2002 20:16:33 -0700, The Real Bev
>> <bash…@myrealbox.com> wrote:
snip
>What I call ‘the flu’ is the thing that you have for about a week, gives you
>chills and fever, body aches, diarrhea and vomiting. I get one of those
>every few years too. The cure is boring TV, chicken soup and time. What
>is that called if not the flu?
yes, *that’s* the flu … I think the thing that marks it out is the
true fever that goes with it, in all its forms…
Jim
>> end of high horse …
>Not likely
I was joking … he’s always tied to the rail outside :0)
Jim
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>–
>Cheers,
>Bev
>+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>"History I believe furnishes no example of a priest-ridden people
> maintaining a free civil government."
> – letter from Thomas Jefferson to Baron vonHumboldt, 1813
> of alcohol. He said what I should really do is let the neighborhood kids
> play with them for a while and then hand out his business cards to their
> parents.
Oooohh.. like the dentist that hands out candy…
-MT
"The Real Bev" <bash…@myrealbox.com> wrote in message
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> Mike Tyner wrote:
> > I’ve seen it in my own kids and on my own hands and my pediatrician agrees.
The
> > evidence seems to be something about the immune system that is sensitive to
your
> > beliefs. It’s a staggering thought.
> And really cool, too! Consider that shrinks may have amassed millions of
> dollars by talking people out of their chemical imbalances…
> I had a wart under my arm which I eventually had burned off by a
> dermatologist. Several years later a similar wart appeared about an inch
> away from the previous one. I’m leaving that one alone. SOMETHING wants me
> to have a wart under my arm.
> Another wart story: My son had a number of plantar warts, which the
> dermatologist cut out. I asked for them (don’t ask why, I’m just weird; I
> still have my daughter’s shriveled belly button), so he put them in a tube
> of alcohol. He said what I should really do is let the neighborhood kids
> play with them for a while and then hand out his business cards to their
> parents.
> —
> Cheers,
> Bev
> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> "History I believe furnishes no example of a priest-ridden people
> maintaining a free civil government."
> – letter from Thomas Jefferson to Baron vonHumboldt, 1813
"Per C" <pechr…@online.no> wrote in message
news:AYGo9.540$jS5.15547@news2.ulv.nextra.no…
> Could somebody please tell me what prescription a guy has, who has 20/200
> vision and how to calculate it?
> Cliff
The guy will need to see an eye doctor and have an examination that will
include determining refractive error. Unaided acuity cannot be used to tell
what prescription the guy has.
Dr Judy
In article <zhLo9.162059$q41.93…@news02.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com>,
"Dr Judy" <mpacenospa…@rogers.com> wrote:
> "Per C" <pechr…@online.no> wrote in message
> news:AYGo9.540$jS5.15547@news2.ulv.nextra.no…
> > Could somebody please tell me what prescription a guy has, who has 20/200
> > vision and how to calculate it?
> > Cliff
> The guy will need to see an eye doctor and have an examination that will
> include determining refractive error. Unaided acuity cannot be used to tell
> what prescription the guy has.
> Dr Judy
I certainly agree. Somebody with cataract could have 20/200 vision and
not require any correction at all.
However, wouldn’t there be some kind of simple formula if you were to
assume that vision loss at distance was due strictly to myopia? Or am I
missing something here?
Ob Dr Judy – When I was a kid, our family doctor was Dr. Judy. He was in
practice with his wife, also called Dr. Judy. We didn’t like the wife,
and only saw the husband. I don’t know if that was sexist, or just
because of the personalities. Dr. Fred Judy was a small, meek man who
spoke quietly. Dr. Henrietta Judy was large, assertive and spoke more
loudly.
–
Dan Abel
Sonoma State University
AIS
da…@sonic.net
There’s a rule of thumb, an old topic here on s.m.v. There are too many
variables to make reliable predictions off of any single-line graph.
If you assume nearsightedness only, people with 20/200 vision will usually be
about -2.00. If the lights are bright, someone with -4.00 refraction will see
just as well (20/200). But so would a 55 year old whose prescription is +3.00.
And they’d all see 20/30 through a pinhole.
The huge difference between +3.00 and -4.00 (or even -2.00) makes us discard
this method of predicting refraction, especially when retinoscopy and automated
instruments are so much more accurate than guesswork.
-MT
"Dan Abel" <da…@sonic.net> wrote in message
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> In article <zhLo9.162059$q41.93…@news02.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com>,
> "Dr Judy" <mpacenospa…@rogers.com> wrote:
> > "Per C" <pechr…@online.no> wrote in message
> > news:AYGo9.540$jS5.15547@news2.ulv.nextra.no…
> > > Could somebody please tell me what prescription a guy has, who has 20/200
> > > vision and how to calculate it?
> > > Cliff
> > The guy will need to see an eye doctor and have an examination that will
> > include determining refractive error. Unaided acuity cannot be used to tell
> > what prescription the guy has.
> > Dr Judy
> I certainly agree. Somebody with cataract could have 20/200 vision and
> not require any correction at all.
> However, wouldn’t there be some kind of simple formula if you were to
> assume that vision loss at distance was due strictly to myopia? Or am I
> missing something here?
> Ob Dr Judy – When I was a kid, our family doctor was Dr. Judy. He was in
> practice with his wife, also called Dr. Judy. We didn’t like the wife,
> and only saw the husband. I don’t know if that was sexist, or just
> because of the personalities. Dr. Fred Judy was a small, meek man who
> spoke quietly. Dr. Henrietta Judy was large, assertive and spoke more
> loudly.
> —
> Dan Abel
> Sonoma State University
> AIS
> da…@sonic.net