Human vision, visual correction, and visual science

Re: Shawn at 20/20 with some 20/15

"Otis Brown" <otisbr…@pa.net> wrote

> In stead you attempt to "explain away" this
> obvious scientific fact, by saying (with out
> any proof) that he had "accommodation myopia",
> or some other fiction.

You still haven’t told us which physical structure changed. If you ever
figure that out, you’ll realize we’re right. Here’s a hint: when you
eliminate the impossible, whatever is left, no matter how improbable, must
be the truth.

Hanging a piece of convex plastic in the visual path doesn’t change the
length of the eye or the curvature of the cornea. Perhaps you believe it
does, but then, that is YOUR PROBLEM.

You can evade the issue by saying the eye isn’t a box-camera, but the only
other explanation is that some miracle happens between the cornea and the
brain, and that isn’t really scientific, now, is it?

-MT

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  1. admin says:

    Dear Otis Engineer,

    More argument just for the sake of argument.

    Your case study, Shawn, is an accommodative myope.  Inducing ciliary muscle
    relaxation by the use of plus lenses is certainly going to help such people
    in the long run if they are willing to do it.  So would be the use of
    atropine to paralyze their ciliary muscle.  No argument from any of us
    there.  Accommodative myopes are in the minority.  The majority of myopes
    are due to structural/anatomical issues within the eye.

    But you keep avoiding the issue.  Please answer the question that you keep
    getting posed with–

    In an anatomical myope, where the axial length of the eye is too long or the
    corneal refractive surface it too steep, how will a plus lens cause the
    visual image to be brought to focus on the retina?  What anatomic structure
    in the eye is changed to achieve this?  Do you propose that the length of
    the eye shortens?  Do you propose that the curvature cornea flattens?  Do
    you propose that the index of refraction of the ocular tissues decreases?
    Or some other fiction?  Try to answer the question Otis.

    RM
    Ph.D. O.D.

    P.S. — If you oppose using minus lenses so much, how can you claim in a
    separate posting in this newsgroup to be neutral toward the use of LASIK
    surgery to correct myopia.  In LASIK surgery you are simply removing plus
    power from the cornea (equivalent to adding minus lens power) to get the
    visual image to focus on the retina?

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    "Otis Brown" <otisbr…@pa.net> wrote in message

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    > Dear Prevention-minded friends,

    > I am please to report on Shawn’s success.

    > But some of you amaze me.  You claim you are "looking"
    > for a solution — but when a obvious solution is
    > achieved by a very-determined youn man you do every
    > thing in your power to "explain away" this
    > type of solution.

    > Obviously this type of scientific solution can not
    > be reduced into dealings with the public — in
    > 15 minutes.  And I would not expect any optometrist
    > to be able to supply it — since it depends
    > on the qualities of intelligence and motivation
    > that this young man has.

    > In stead you attempt to "explain away" this
    > obvious scientific fact, by saying (with out
    > any proof) that he had "accommodation myopia",
    > or some other fiction.

    > Best,

    > Otis
    > Engineer

    > _______________________

    > Dear Otis

    > My vision is very sharp this evening. i went through 20/20 no problem, and
    > read 2/5 charecters on the 20/15 line!

    > I can focus light on the red spectrum between -1/4D and -1/3D and focus
    > all
    > other light at about -1/2D.

    > I feel very successfull and proud of myself to now be able to exceed the
    > profecional pilot 20/20 vision requirements.

    > Success is sweet.

    > Shawn

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